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Are Parents of High School Students Too Permissive About Parties?

The existence of a "Fantasy Slut League" at Piedmont High School has parents and students wondering who is to blame for a contest where varsity athletes collected points for sexual activity with female classmates. Could it happen here?

In a letter to parents Friday, Piedmont High School’s principal revealed the existence of a “Fantasy Slut League” where varsity athletes collected points for sexual activity with female classmates.

"It has been reported that students on some of our Varsity Teams have set up a "Fantasy Slut League" in which our female students (unbeknownst to most of them) are drafted as part of the league," Principal Rich Kitchens' letter said. "Male students earn points for documented engagement in sexual activities with female students."

The letter failed to specify what teams participated in the practice, only that “over the past 5-6 years such a league has existed in one form or another as part of ‘bonding’ for some Varsity Teams during their seasons of sport.”

Commenters on Piedmont Patch identifying themselves as current and former students argued that the sexual activity would have happened even if the league never existed. “What the Parents need to understand is that you should be blaming the parties your 15-18 year old daughters go to not the league,” wrote someone who claimed to be a recent alum of the school.

Other commenters were dismayed by the principal's claim that the participating students now know the league was wrong because the possibility of discipline may damage their prospects when it's time to apply for college. "It is incredibly SAD that PHS students are most concerned about how this might affect their college applications and NOT that they regret harming another child," wrote a mother of two children in Piedmont schools.

The principal’s letter noted that the idea behind the league “was not unique to Piedmont High School.” What do you think? Could something like the Fantasy Slut League be part of Lamorinda's high school athlete culture? Are parents and guardians too permissive when it comes to alcohol at high school parties? 

lisa October 20, 2012 at 11:12 PM
Who's stupid or naive enough to think that this kind of behavior is limited to Piedmont? Do you think teens and parents in Lamorinda are more ethical and moral, more educated, better mannered, less sexist, less permissive, and more against drug use/alcohol abuse than Anywhere Else, USA? Give me a break.
Chris Nicholson October 20, 2012 at 11:50 PM
@Patch Staff: I think your story contains a typo in a key quote. Where you wrote: “over the past 5-6 years such a league has existed in one form or another..." I think "5-6 years" should read "50-60 thousand years." Also, I suspect potential plagiarism in the whole piece. It is a nearly verbatim copy of an article published last week in "Duh Magazine."
HeresWhereMyNameGoes October 21, 2012 at 12:19 AM
Our body is a temple. We should really stop trashing it and treating it like it's a gas station restroom. People should also expect better of the person with whom they choose to share their body.
Eastofthehills October 21, 2012 at 01:41 AM
"Fantasy slut league"? Who cares....? Highschool kids have been screwing each other since we've had highschools. I remember back in highschool a at a party some guy from the football team was porking one of the girls on the volleyball team in the bathroom. It was really a pain in the ass because I needed to go pee. That said it's good thing most houses in lamorinda have trees; you can support yourself on them while you piss.
Jose October 21, 2012 at 03:33 AM
According to the movie, The Social Network, that is how billion dollar businesses are started by the best minds at our universities, just a few short years after puberty has set in.
Frozen Waffles October 21, 2012 at 07:04 AM
It's just sex. Don't over think it.
Bailey Lee October 21, 2012 at 04:36 PM
Was that your sister? Then maybe you'd care.
Bailey Lee October 21, 2012 at 04:39 PM
The answer is yes, I hope there is a difference. http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Richmond-gang-rape-witness-story-recounted-2455029.php
cat October 22, 2012 at 02:22 AM
We need to tell our girls not to go into the military, especially the Marines. Coastguard and National Guard is the safest place. Many in the military today came from BROKEN OR NEVER MADE HOMES... and have to example on how to TREAT WOMEN today...and there are NO LOVE SONGS either? just sex songs? and girls dont care?
cat October 22, 2012 at 02:25 AM
Not really--it was too dangerous long time ago. Then, you had smoking bathrooms for the teens...I believe the 'sluts' got real bad when the SONGS got bad; music is hypnotic as well---remember the 50s? everyone got married after HS since many of the songs had a ROMANTIC ELEMENT to them, now they 'hook up' and get various diseases
cat October 22, 2012 at 02:28 AM
SEX is how we GET HERE and it IS lifechanging if someone gets pregnant...besides: if you are 40 and under, you 'survived' abortion when your peers did not
Frozen Waffles October 22, 2012 at 04:10 AM
Cat - They make birth control for these reasons.
Orinda Dad October 22, 2012 at 04:18 PM
They used to call it " Hooking Up ", then "Friends with benefits", now "Fantasy Slut League" ... it's all the same. We as parents hope they dont drive drunk and they use condoms.
DC / Lafayette October 22, 2012 at 04:20 PM
I don't think it takes a party for a teenager to have sex and I know that not all the high school girls are having sex, regardless of the pressure, a party or "the program." Having said that, this story is about EVERY high school, not just Piedmont. The end game is the same, only the players and the rules differ.
Alex Gronke (Editor) October 22, 2012 at 04:48 PM
A senior at Piedmont HS offers an interesting young woman's perspective on the controversy at the school. http://piedmont.patch.com/articles/letter-an-inside-look-at-fantasy-league
Chris Nicholson October 22, 2012 at 05:03 PM
Shocking honesty and level-headed perspective from someone with actual knowledge of the events. You don't get that much anymore. I think the over-reaction from the administration was formulated in the shadow of the PC Beast that threatens to lash out at anyone who doesn't go "all in" to denounce anything will keywords like "bully," "teenage sex," "alcohol," and "coerce."
DC / Lafayette October 22, 2012 at 05:31 PM
I understand part of her (senior at Piemont HS) message and the grasp of social pressures being the larger problem and the instigator. But... Is this young lady also trying to point out she is a fully knowledgable individual, so therefore not a victim if her name shows up on the blog? And am I correct in understanding that she is updating the rules as stated, to ensure we know that the girls receive the points, not just the boys?
Phil Jackson October 22, 2012 at 05:37 PM
With all due respect, the "friends with benefits" phenomenon was characterized by girls with self-esteem so low, they would agree to get drilled by a popular athlete for the promise of nothing in return. And the boys talked ... so I would suggest the two things are more similar than not
Eastofthehills October 22, 2012 at 05:41 PM
I think things have changes in the last 30 years. It would only be a problem if you date raped someones sister; hooking up with her who cares? Kids for the past 30 years have known the score; public school educates the ignorant in these matters rather quickly. Sure the level of shame associated with such actions is very low, but any kid who goes into highschool these days not knowing the score is A) homeschooled B) sheltered beyond belief C) going to learn fast D) socially/emotionally retarded It's not just the music, it's easy access to contraceptives, television, porn, etc. All combined. Plus sex if you didn't know is actually a quite enjoyable activity. People today aren't so constrained by religious dogma around the issue like in the 50's. I believe the rules today are don't get pregenant and don't get an STD.
Alex Gronke (Editor) October 22, 2012 at 06:01 PM
@phil jackson and @eastofthehills, As Chris Nicholson has pointed out, this is an ancient, even prehistoric topic. We have an almost unlimited supply of slang and euphemism to describe the various aspects of the subject under discussion. But at the risk of taking some of the color out of the conversation, I'd like to ask everyone to avoid terms that you wouldn't use when speaking about a friend's teenage son or daughter.
HeresWhereMyNameGoes October 22, 2012 at 06:43 PM
Further proof that teens must be taught to use birth control and that birth control pills don't protect you against a host of rather unpleasant illnesses. Ladies should also be taught that settling down with a man who has a great deal of sexual history can lead to infertility. From the CDC: Even though symptoms of chlamydia are usually mild or absent, serious complications that cause irreversible damage, including infertility, can occur "silently" before a woman ever recognizes a problem. Chlamydia is the most frequently reported bacterial sexually transmitted disease in the United States." It's believed that Jackie Kennedy's miscarriages and premature labor may have been caused by JFK giving her chlamydia. So, Ladies, marrying the young stud with a lot of sexual history might not be a great idea if you want to have kids.
DC / Lafayette October 22, 2012 at 08:36 PM
O Dad... do you have daughters, sons, both?
Eastofthehills October 22, 2012 at 08:53 PM
I'll give the same advice my parents gave me: "Don't get someone pregnant we're too young to be grandparents!"
Eastofthehills October 22, 2012 at 08:58 PM
@Cat - Don't go into the Marines? huh did i miss something.... The marine core probably isn't the place for many young women, but I think it's decision they can make on their own. Going to greek row at a "institute of higher learning" is probably just as bad...
Jose October 23, 2012 at 03:44 AM
This "conversation", this thread, consists of 10 pseudonyms and 2 possible actual nyms, plus a patch "editor". As the Doonesbury character said of the arrival of the first prostitutes in the virgin territory..."That's progress".
HeresWhereMyNameGoes October 23, 2012 at 04:06 AM
Nothing wrong with pseudonyms.
Jose October 23, 2012 at 04:50 AM
Who am I to disagree with the wisdom of that? I am not bleeping Jose! JD, my sometimes hero, on the other hand, was seeking something better, something better than bleeping Jose. When he failed, we all failed. You are not wrong for using a pseudonym. It just seems that we are all a little smaller for it.
HeresWhereMyNameGoes October 23, 2012 at 07:12 AM
I see people who post on here with their real names and their comments are some of the dumbest/worst. Using your real name does not correlate with quality, accuracy, or integrity.
HeresWhereMyNameGoes October 23, 2012 at 07:14 AM
The kids who talk about having sex are usually the ones not getting laid. I'll bet more than half of the alleged sexual encounters never occurred.

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