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Scamming the Scammers -- Sometimes You Just Have To

Regular readers know of our antipathy for Internet con artists. We have one on the line, and have set the hook...

 

UPDATE: Fish on! Our scammer is interested, and look where he wants us to send his money...

We've written ad nauseum but with no apparent effect about the scurrilous dogs who prey on the good nature of older folks and others with a variety of carefully composed and worded Internet scams all designed to separate good people from their money.

Dozens of Lamorindans have fallen victim to the scammers and that really cheeses us off, so when we received the latest iteration of the "I Was Robbed While On Vacation and Need Money to Get Home" con, we decided to play along and see where it took us.

For those of you who haven't heard of the con, it starts with a hacked email account and a panicky letter like this one, with the hackee's name and info omitted -- of course:

I really hope you get this on time. I didn't tell you about my visit to Spain with my family for a short vacation, but unfortunately we were robbed at the hotel where we lodged along with other folks. We did not bring our phones here and the hotel telephone lines were disconnected during the incident. So we have access to only emails. Please I'm going to need some sort of loan from you for us to relocate to another hotel close to the embassy and also to get another flight ticket. Those thieves made away with our credit cards as well which is why this can't be resolved instantly.

We have been to the Embassy and the Police here are not helping issues at all and our flight leaves tomorrow..Please, Let me know if you can help us out?

I'm looking forward to hearing from you.

Ralph XXXXX, XXXX N California Blvd, UnitXXX, Walnut Creek, CA 95496-4458(925)938-XXXX

 

Got it? As it happens I know this person (the hackers send this email to everyone on Ralph's email contact list) and the initial instinct is, of course, to lend a hand. But Ralph and his family did not go to Spain, are not in any sort of trouble, and are in fact safe and well in Walnut Creek. The grifter is hoping Ralph's friends don't know that.

The Con

To get us to wire money, usually to the tune of $2,000 to $3,000, to a Western Union wire transfer station -- possibly in Spain, we don't know, yet. That money, of course, would be untraceable once wired and once received by the grifter, would never be seen again. Interpol and other police agencies estimate the con nets billions -- with a B -- each year.

 

The Sting

Being worldly and very Patchy, we recognized this morning's con for what it was and responded with a breathless, eager-to-help missive back to the con artist, asking how we can help. Having had experience with the con and not having a Patch in Barcelona it is doubtful we'll be able to put the grifter where he or she belongs -- in irons -- but we intend to have some fun and we'll update this story as it develops.

Let's see where it takes us. Perhaps others will get a little insight into how the con men (and women) work.

 

Fish On -- Let the Game Begin

Within 20 minutes of our communication with "Ralph," we received this:

Thanks a lot for your willingness to help..Western Union happens to be a quicker means of sending the cash, and please bear in mind that I'll facilitate your reimbursement as soon as will get back home.all we need is €1,550 1,935.34 USD.All you have to do is to locate a Western Union outlet or you can transfer online by using your Credit card to log on to westernunion.com and get the money transferred in my name. Please use the details below to send:
NAME-  Ralph XXXXXAddress: Narvaez 69 - Esquina Calle Sainz De BarandaCity: MadridZIP Code: 28009Country: Spain
Just help me write out the MTCN/Reference number and other necessary details. I'm looking forward to hearing from you.

 

I'll bet you are looking forward to hearing from me, bud. We're checking but we believe the Esquina Calle Sainz de Baranda is a mail drop in Madrid. Just under $2,000 -- we were off a bit on the extent of your greed.

He follows up with:

Please you very much, Just help me write out the MTCN/Reference number and other necessary details. I'm looking forward to hearing from you. MTCN Western union control number is the reference number that will be giving to you by the outlet or bank.

Suddenly, "Ralph's" English starts to break down. I ask a few questions and he doesn't like what he's hearing. But he likes that we drew the money -- $2,000 -- out of the bank.

Thanks for your mail earlier, The address i gave to you is western union address to pick up the fund ASAP. just a locate a outlet, Bank or shopping mall. you can transfer on my name


So, after some questions about his wife and children -- which the scammer never answered -- we told him his money was on its way. His answer:

waiting

Now, if he hangs on, we're going to work the old California Con on HIM, upping the ante and bouncing him around town.

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Napoleon Solo May 21, 2013 at 10:55 am
I agree with all of that. I consider myself rather recent to either of those sites so I'll defer toRead More your knowledge of it. My issue with Patch was how they seem to try to create tension and arguments, and especially if they get a good fight going, seem to bring in groups that clearly are not local. I have little interest in debating issues with someone from Fremont, for example. I agree that News is doing a great job of local coverage. I can infer from some of the bits of information that one of their writers lives within a few blocks of me.
Chris Nicholson May 21, 2013 at 10:42 am
NapSol: News24-680 has its flaws, but I haven't heard other complaints about censorship. It's aRead More crew of people who were doing "hyper local" reporting BEFORE Patch came to town and they seem to be poised to outlive Patch. We'll see. Even before the big reductions in editorial/reporting resources per Patch site, News 24-680 seemed to do a better job covering core local stories-- albeit with less overall content/audience than here. Some of the regional/generic Patch stories are, IMHO, fine. But if Patch loses even more of its local flavor I suspect interest/traffic will wane.
Napoleon Solo May 21, 2013 at 09:53 am
I'm not sure what it means to "move to" the news24-680 site. Converation there does notRead More seem to be encouraged beyond shallow "me too" kind of comments. If there are any conversations of any substance there, I have yet to find them. I know some or many of the discussions here were disfunctional, but at least there were conversations. I did a test posting there yesterday and it was censored or at least never showed up. My post was in response to an interview of a St. Mary's economist who is against trying to lower the $1 trillion dollar federal deficit spending. I did not say anything disrespectful as I recall, but I guess it was censored cause it contained actual ideas. By the way, I used to be an economist on one of the largest trading floors in the world, so in my opinion, its OK for me to have a different view. The News people I guess don't think so. Will still look at it cause it has some nice local news but its not for participating.
Chris Nicholson May 19, 2013 at 09:38 am
LamoMan: "Back to school" is beginning of year and "Open House" is toward theRead More end. W/R/T high school, I agree with you that it's not as fun as K-5. I was disappointed, for example, to see no exemplary integral homework stapled to the wall of Calculus class-- I love the funny f/s hybrid symbol. Basically, I was bullied into attending by my wife (and the lure of Taco Truck catering). In seriousness, it was nice to stop by and (re)connect names and faces and be reminded of the dedication and talent of many (but not, ahem, all) of the teachers we're lucky enough to have here.
LamorindaMan May 18, 2013 at 11:46 pm
I don't have children so maybe I'm missing something. But, what is the point of an open house at theRead More high school level and what is the point of an open house at the end of the school year? What do they do at open house for high schoolers?
Vincent Carter May 17, 2013 at 01:21 am
At $400,000 of Tax Payer money i expected it to be the Contract Negotaitor.
Carlos Garcia May 16, 2013 at 04:43 pm
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lovelafayette May 15, 2013 at 10:44 am
This brochure took a lot of work by a small group of people, supported by a cast of 400! We needRead More your help! PRINT AND SHARE AND POST this great flyer/sign. Parks is conducting a stealth campaign for BMX, NO PUBLICITY ALLOWED!! Jennifer Russell is hounding me personally using the CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER as a tool. I have been threatened with fines and fees, citations and misdemeanors, for informing the public about BMX. “Someone” posted our iconic signs, “Your Park with BMX”, on all the park public forum bulletin boards! No photos of the mystery posters exist, Jennifer lied and told code enforcement I admitted to posting THAT sign. I admitted posting signs about the April 8 meeting, but that is not the sign I am charged with! Please help confound the code enforcement officer by printing and posting and distributing this great flyer. Take it to church, youth group, PTA meetings. We could try our own stealth campaign, all wear Giants baseball hats and black hoodies! The rest of the story is at: WWW.NOLAFAYETTEBIKEPARK.COM and www.lafayettebikepark.com (city site) Suzanne Sommer lovelafayette@msn.com
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Hi Everyone, Thanks for dropping by PATCH. We really appreciate your taking the time. Hard toRead More imagine at times that Tom Cruise has been in the showbiz for at least three decades now.. It is as if it were just yesterday when I first watched "The Outsiders". We will have more film reviews for you all.. Thanks again. Beau
c5 April 23, 2013 at 02:12 pm
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KAC April 22, 2013 at 09:56 pm
Tom Cruise? Pass...
LamorindaMan April 17, 2013 at 10:43 am
Will this workshop benefit motorcyclists? Bicycle riding requires way too much work. I'd rather rideRead More a motorcycle and let the engine do all the heavy lifting.
Napoleon Solo April 16, 2013 at 03:44 pm
They think they are doing something for the environment. When one of my kids had to do a schoolRead More project showing they were using recycled materials, I did not have anything reasonable around and had to go to the store, buy a large soda bottle, and pour it down the drain when I got home so there was a "recycled" item for the project. How did that save the environment?
CJ April 16, 2013 at 03:30 pm
Really?- How long is this farce going to be pushed? This has been going on for what seems likeRead More forever. 10 kids (of Envirotreehuggers) and 2- Environazi's will get on their bikes and ride to school and their nearby offices. While the rest of the reasonable people see this for what it is.....ridiculous. This will never be practical and if you want to be so, then do it without all the nonsense. I used to bike 15miles to my job and back, but that was when I was a wacked out Triathlete trying to qualify for Ironman. It is ridiculous as a daily practice for a myriad of reasons. Sustainable Lafaytette? - I sincerely hope this is not an actual public tax money paid position.
lovelafayette May 20, 2013 at 07:12 am
A dog park in Lafayette has been discussed by the Parks Department for years. Carol Singer, ParksRead More Commissioner always expresses interest but it never goes beyond talking. Parks is in the midst of a major review of CIP projects, email Council or Parks and let them know you want a dog park now! Funding is available, we just need to convince parks this is a priority.
TMoraga April 19, 2013 at 12:49 pm
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Paula Capps April 19, 2013 at 11:28 am
The dog group at Stanley has been going to the school for decades. We have always cleaned up afterRead More the dogs and everyone gets along beautifully. It's been a strong sense of community I myself gained from the group of kind and friendly owners. The incident that stemmed this has become distorted. There are other witnesses besides the parents who literally screamed at a very nice mild mannered young man. They cursed at him and treated him like dirt. What kind of an example was that to a child? His dog was not mean, excited yes, but in fact the dog diid NOT even touch the little girl. The girl chased after the dog's rolling ball. The dog came toward her to claim his ball. She freaked out and started screaming. Instead of talking to the little girl and man in instructive and calm ways to show dog and child all was ok the parents made themselves look crazy and the poor man was verbally abused. Dogs need to run and play just like people. I'd like to add it is a fine to throw food wrappers, bottles, cap tops, and unwanted food all over the field, and most anywhere in this lovely Bay Area we all share. l have picked up hands full, two and times each night. Why are parents allowing this? We have a beautiful place to live here please teach children to respect our earth. They'll be around here longer than the adults at this writing.